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Re: l10n-switzerland + payroll

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Twanda AG, Ermin Trevisan
- 19/08/2020 09:59:39
First step should be to provide a Swissdec-capable open source version.

Just my 2 Rappen

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On 19 Aug 2020, at 09:31, Jean Respen <jean.respen@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi guys,

Checking this link https://www.swissdec.ch/fileadmin/user_upload/Vereinbarung_f.pdf, it seems like that for Open Source projects, the certifications is only valid for the original version, non modified, so I think it means that Odoo on itself should maintain the certification for the Enterprise version, not us.

What do you think ? Worth asking Odoo ?

Best.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 9:22 AM Didier Donzé <didier.donze@camptocamp.com> wrote:
I have the same Feedback, but it's 2 years old already. by the time I contacted Swissdec..

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 9:11 AM Ermin Trevisan <trevi@twanda.com> wrote:
AFAIK it is not possible get certification for open source projects.

Best, trevi 

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On 19 Aug 2020, at 08:46, Stefano Sforzi <stefano.sforzi@agilebg.com> wrote:

Hi all,

in my personal opinion the real goal is to have a set of modules very close to Swissdec specifications (payroll but also reports, certification, salary communication and so on) and keep it for all versions. The top is receive the Swissdec certification

I know that do to this the effort is high but all together probably we can do.

My 2 cents

Il 18.08.2020 08:22, Ermin Trevisan ha scritto:
Dear Jacques-André

Thanks for your feedback. While I understand the new situation created by the withdrawal of the payroll module from the community edition by Odoo with version 13.0, I believe we still need a working community module for the versions 12.0 and 13.0. It is a show stopper otherwise.

While the OCA module is version 11.0 only, you at Opennet have published a version for 12.0, but these two modules show different approaches. Your module offers a new feature by integrating the source taxation with the automatic download of the source tax values (barèmes), while the OCA module does not contain this feature.

Now the question is: which is the way to go? Forward port the OCA module or use the Opennet module? Which one will make it into the OCA repository?

@Janik: welcome aboard!

You have forgotten the most important salary rule at current times: shorttime work :-)

How can we join forces in order to get a working payroll for the versions 12.0 and 13.0 (and probably also 14.0 at least for the community edition) as soon as possible?
And to get as close as possible to Swissdect?

I'm not a developer, but I can again offer my help for translations, structuring and defining salary rules.

Best, trevi

On Mon, 2020-08-17 at 12:02 +0000, Open Net Sàrl / J-A Eberhard wrote:
Bonjour,

Up to version 11, we published the following module


Since then, Odoo changes for us to rethink the whole module

17 août 2020 11:57 Janik von Rotz <janik.vonrotz@mint-system.ch> a écrit:
Dear Swiss OCA community,

I am quite new to Odoo and would like to know more about the Swiss localization process for Odoo CE/Enterprise.

In particular I have a customer that is interested in Odoo Payroll. But the lack of localization makes it difficult to persuade him and finally compete with existing solutions such as from Abacus.

Apart from missing translation the payroll module cannot depict employee specific wage types out-of-the-box. The most important ones are:

* Lohnpfändung
* Quellensteuer
* Krankentaggeld über Zeit

Now I am thinking about the extending the hr contract model with new fields and implement python-based rules for the wage type.
My goal is having a fix data set with salary rules and a odoo module to extend the hr contract.

What is your approach to such a problem? 
Do you already have a solution as I imagine? 
What does the upstream process for localizations look like?
Is anybody interested in collaborating on this problem?

Would be nice to hear from you :)

Cheers,

Janik

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