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Re: enhanced wikipedia page

by
Sunflower IT, Tom Blauwendraat
- 27/01/2018 21:44:44
Hey Landis, am discussing with Xavier a _really minimal_ page (2 sentences currently) that we will post and try to get accepted. 
After it gets accepted we will ping here, and will be really happy if you work on the extra content.

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 9:47 PM, Landis Arnold <larnold@nomadic.net> wrote:
Dropping back into this.  Seemed there was another start on this a few years back now.  Is there a start page now.  I'd like to follow and help as I may be able.

Long time user.

Landis Arnold
Boulder Colo.


From: Xavier Brochard <zeroheure@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 11:17 AM
To: Contributors
Subject: Re: enhanced wikipedia page

I'm ok. Let's start!
I suggest we use your draft, it is far neutral than mine..

I will add references from the various Odoo books.

Xavier

Le samedi 27 janvier 2018, 13:53:54 CET Tom Blauwendraat a écrit :


> Hi all,


> 


> I think Eric's suggestion is very good for the long term, but:


> 1) Currently we don't even have a Wikipedia page, I think at least a small


> one is possible with the references we can muster now


> 2) Other Wikipedia pages eg. the one from Apache Foundation don't use any


> references to mainstream media, most are references to documents they host


> themselves. So I think Wikipedia is trying to uphold a higher standard for


> new articles as compared to articles that are already there.


> 


> My proposal is to change strategy: we submit a very small (one or two


> sentences/paragraphs) basic article with the few solid references we have


> (books, OCA charter) etc.


> Then, when it gets accepted, we slowly add sentences, one by one, on it. So


> it will be managable for the volunteers, like, just do one sentence when


> you feel you have the energy... plus it's not that demotivating to see your


> whole text rejected as a whole.


> 


> I would be willing to submit the first sentence - Xavier maybe after that


> you can add the second? Any other willing to help?


> 


> Tom


> 


> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 2:16 PM, Xavier Brochard <zeroheure@gmail.com>


> 


> wrote:


> > I would like to help about writing general presentation. I already do that


> > in french to introduce OCA to friends. It will also help me to understand


> > what OCA do which is not allways clear from  website.


> > 


> > Regards


> > Xavier Brochard


> > (Please CC me as I'm not an OCA member)


> > 


> > Le 13 janvier 2018, Elico Corp, Eric Caudal has writed :


> > > Hi,


> > > This is something that we need to fix at board level with better


> > > coordinated> 


> > PR actions.


> > 


> > > We have hired a new General Secretary (Rebecca Gellatly) to help the


> > > board


> > 


> > in the daily tasks and this might be a good opportunity to start spreading


> > the good word.


> > 


> > > We should write articles (as neutral as possible) that we should propose


> > > to


> > 


> > Internet magazines.


> > 


> > > I do not want to hijack roles (Daniel Reis and Dave Lasley are


> > > responsible


> > 


> > of marketing and Communication) but it wouldnot hurt if some volunteers


> > could write general presentation (like the one for Wikipedia) or


> > dedicated article and others to list potential general magazines or


> > expert reviews where we could post them.


> > 


> > > It will take probably a year or 2 before we get a "reputation" on the


> > 


> > Internet so that we can safely post on Wikipedia.


> > 


> > > Your thoughts?


> > > --


> > > Eric Caudal [Founder and CEO]


> > > 


> > > Le vendredi 12 janvier 2018, 18:03:19 CET Tom Blauwendraat a écrit :


> > > There seem to be really few sources available, so that's an issue.


> > > 


> > > I do think we can refer to newspaper articles in other languages though


> > > -


> > > so maybe there has been some coverage in Belgian, French, Spanish or


> > > Dutch


> > > newspapers?


> > > Also perhaps we can refer to the Odoo books, if OCA is mentioned in


> > > them.


> > > Books are reputable sources of information.


> > > 


> > > Tom


> > > 


> > > 


> > > 


> > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 12:32 PM, Xavier Brochard <zeroheure@gmail.com>


> > > 


> > > wrote:


> > > > The draft was rejected again by Wikipedia (Tom's improvement were not


> > > > yet


> > > > on wikipedia). The main reason is notability and reference.


> > > > The reviewer left me this additional comment :


> > > > "References to blogs and niche online sources do not constitute


> > > > widespread


> > > > media coverage."


> > > > So we need better references. I have some from CNET and ZDNET but in


> > > > french


> > > > only.


> > > > 


> > > > Xavier



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