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Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop

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InitOS GmbH, Frederik Kramer
- 10/06/2021 14:49:34
Hi folks, 

from our side my colleague Usama and I will collaborate on the matter.
Maybe it'll be nice to organise a small call next week to nail down the
scope of the generic part of the job. For instance i would suggest
Monday afternoon at 2pm. CEST if that fits you all well. We could set
up an host a small video call. Who would be interested ?

Best Frederik 

Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 14:42 +0000 schrieb Daniel Reis:

> Hello, thank you for bringing this up.

> 

> I am available to collaborate.

> 

> A basic thing to have is the full list of VAT rates and tax regions.

> There are up to three tax levels - standard, reduced and super

> reduced.

> And for example, Portugal has three tax regions - Mainland, Madeira

> and Azores. Spain also has something similar, and I'm sure it is not

> the only country.

> 

> I don't see a oca/l10n-europe repository.

> Should we have one, or just use one of the existing accounting

> relates repos, such as oca/account-fiscal-position ot oca/account-

> invoicing?

> 

> Thanks

> Daniel

> 

> On 10/06/2021 13:52, Sergio Corato wrote:

> > Hi all,

> > I was planning to use this module as a starting point: 

> > https://github.com/odoo/odoo/tree/14.0/addons/l10n_eu_service

> > So the standard italian report will clearly identify VAT by

> > country, the next step of sending data will be done by the advisor.

> > The selection of the fiscal position is so automated by country,

> > but not by B2C/B2B (little coding needed here).

> > What planned implementation would do?

> > Sergio Corato

> > 

> > 

> > Il giorno gio 10 giu 2021 alle ore 13:02 Harald Panten Lopez <

> > harald.panten@sygel.es> ha scritto:

> > > Hi Frederik, thank you for your prompt reply.

> > > 

> > > We were planning to divide the solutions in two steps.

> > > 

> > > Step 1: Tax mapping, difference between B2B and B2C... As you

> > > said, this can be general and common for all EU countries.

> > > 

> > > Step 2: Country localization reporting according the Spanish VAT

> > > laws. This one is going to be different.

> > > 

> > > Did you publish any PR where we could contribute? Our idea was to

> > > create a PR in fiscal-rule OCA repository.

> > > 

> > > El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 12:42, Frederik Kramer (<

> > > frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:

> > > > Hi Harald, 

> > > > 

> > > > yes this is what we are currently working on as well. However

> > > > even

> > > > after studying most of the law baseline in Germany there are a

> > > > couple

> > > > of questions we need to discuss with our tax adivsory.

> > > > 

> > > > For now it seems that pretty much everything concerning the per

> > > > use

> > > > case tax mapping (including country code selection base) and

> > > > differentiation between B2B and B2C use cases can be done with

> > > > configuration and little coding but as the OSS authority

> > > > collecting the

> > > > collected VAT is different in each member state and there seems

> > > > to be

> > > > NO common reporting standard format, for now we thing of

> > > > creating a

> > > > manual report that can than filled into the ELSTER portal (of

> > > > he German

> > > > authorities).

> > > > 

> > > > Maybe we could jointly start a list of open issues that need to

> > > > be

> > > > solve european wide. 

> > > > 

> > > > BTW: We only adresse B2B and B2C use cases with delivery from

> > > > member

> > > > state (germany) to member state (EU-27) and without IOSS market

> > > > place

> > > > special requirement or drop shipping via Amazon Global

> > > > fullfilment or

> > > > alike

> > > > 

> > > > Best Frederik

> > > > 

> > > > Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 10:27 +0000 schrieb Harald

> > > > Panten Lopez:

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > Hi Community,

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly

> > > > (1st of

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > July) that will affect all EU countries.

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > More info:

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind

> > > > of

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any

> > > > European

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > partner working on this?

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we

> > > > were

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is

> > > > to "join

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the

> > > > ideology

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > proposed by OCA.

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > > -- 

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Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
Geschäftsführer
        
initOS GmbH
An der Eisenbahn 1
21224 Rosengarten
        
Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12
Fax:    +49 4105 56156-10
Mobil:  +49 179 3901819
        
Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
Web:   www.initos.com
        
Geschäftsführung:
Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke

Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken
Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
USt-IdNr.: DE815580155

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