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Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store

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IT IS AG, Joerg Lorenz.
- 10/06/2020 10:20:23
+1
Possible approach, in particular to get funds into the OCA

Questions remaining:

1. odoo s.a. gets the money first and keeps 30% commission, as you might know

2. the reporting of s.a. (was or is) "lousy".
We had to chase after our sales for 1,5 years. Proven case were never reported and just turned up by accident (People were asking about support with us, and therefore the tracing was possible)
I think our story is well known. 

3. OCA modules still available for free in the OCA app store? 

In contrast:
If OCA is off the app store, will people not have the issue to know about OCA even more? Is OCA strong enough? 
See our contribution about marketing and "OCA as a brand " @ OCAdays 2019

BR, Joe



Von: "frederik kramer" <frederik.kramer@initos.com>
An: "Odoo Community Association, (OCA) Contributors" <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Juni 2020 12:02:06
Betreff: Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store

However, this burden is induced by purpose i guess. The OCA and its
modules are still not conceived as added valuable for the strategy of
Odoo S.A but probably rather as a strategic threat. 

That is a pitty but i am afraid that will -if it will- change only when
S.A. desperately needs the OCA to survive. That won't probably happen
that soon.

I do definitely agree with Pedro. Most of what you can "buy" on the
Odoo App store is crap (at least from a technical and architectural
perspective). But its nicely displayed crap and mostly decently priced.
 
There is only one measure i could think of to play the game. The OCA as
collective code owner may "sell" their modules in the official app
store as well and use the money to do the marketing to get listet there
(i.e. maintaining the html pages) and a surplose to fund code sprint
whereas the very same modules can be downloaded "free" in the OCA
store. 

The effect is. People that just don't care (i.e. mostly freeriders
anyway) will pay a fee that helps the OCA to do the "artwork" and
"sustain". Informed people use the OCA app store. 

An important downside of it all is, that S.A. earns commission with
that (but hey who cares if freeriders pay part of the price as
commission) 

And don't get me wrong its just an idea how to handle the strategy of
Odoo that might not be well perceived by a majority of contributors and
therefore not applicable. In that regard i'd be interested in the take
of long term heavy contributors (like Pedro) what thay think about this
strategy?

Best Frederik

Am Mittwoch, den 10.06.2020, 07:27 +0000 schrieb Roussel, Denis:


> A good subject for OCA sprint !


> 


> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:22 AM Georg Notter <


> georg.notter@agenterp.com> wrote:


> > I also agree pedro is right  \uD83D\uDC4D\uD83C\uDFFB


> > 


> > Mit freundlichen Grüßen


> > We look forward to see you. Best Regards


> > Dipl. Ing. (Fh) Georg Notter


> > Agent ERP GmbH


> > www.agenterp.com


> > 


> > > Am 10.06.2020 um 09:18 schrieb David Beal <


> > > david.beal@akretion.com>:


> > > 


> > > 


> > > Pedro convinced me.


> > > 


> > > While we have an automatic html file generated dedicated for odoo


> > > appstore, we could update it to add a generic ribbon at the


> > > beginning


> > > to invite people to visit oca store to find the whole collection


> > > of


> > > modules (included those not present in odoo appstore)


> > > 


> > > Bonne journée


> > > 


> > > 


> > > David BEAL - akretion.com


> > > Chef de projet


> > > Odoo Développement / Intégration


> > > 


> > > Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 09:01, Roussel, Denis <


> > > denis.roussel@acsone.eu> a écrit :


> > > 


> > > 


> > > >


> > > 


> > > 


> > > > +1!


> > > 


> > > 


> > > >


> > > 


> > > 


> > > > Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 08:56, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) <


> > > pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> a écrit :


> > > 


> > > 


> > > >


> > > 


> > > 


> > > > I also prefer to ignore Odoo Apps Store due to:


> > > 


> > > 


> > > >


> > > 


> > > 


> > > > - The confirmed blacklist.


> > > 


> > > 


> > > > - To not have a special distinction between all the existing


> > > crap there.


> > > 


> > > 


> > > > - All the maintenance burden we need to do for being there (not


> > > only publishing, but maintaining a special HTML file for having


> > > the same README displayed there, and many more). Personally last


> > > year that I was in charge of this I accounted 30 hours only for


> > > this.


> > > 


> > > 


> > > >


> > > 


> > > 


> > > > And personally I don't think the visibility we get is relevant


> > > enough. I prefer to spend that time spreading our own Apps Store


> > > or use it for having more features (like multi-language READMEs).


> > > 


> > > 


> > > >


> > > 


> > > 


> > > > Regards.


> > > 


> > > 


> > > >


> > > 


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