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Re: Odoo 9 Accouting : Fiscal Years and Periods

by
Camptocamp SA, Frédéric Clementi
- 22/10/2015 11:49:57
It is not only in France of course. Most of countries in the world works that way too.

I have already reported this issue so I will make you save some time with Odoo. 
The answer is (with my words) :
On the day-to-day business, it has no impact. Just post your entries as usual.
On reports, you can handle it as long as you use the Date custom filters and you do not try to use the comparison. It is possible since there is no more opening entries and reports calculate initial balances n the fly.

So...keep smilling, breath deeply and start the specs for a OCA modules :)


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2015-10-21 18:53 GMT+02:00 Alain Desnos <adesnos@gmail.com>:
Hello
I agree.
In french accounting each fiscal year MUST be independent of others.
It's the reason to use an opening period.

Best regard
Alain DESNOS
SIEP

2015-10-21 18:07 GMT+02:00 Maurice Moretti <mm@tempo-consulting.fr>:
Hi all,

with the new accounting implentation how can we handle the case where FY N has 12 months and fiscal year N+1 has 15 months which is a common "french use case" ?

regards

Maurice
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On my side, I see a lot a positive things in this version 9 enterprise but at the moment I focus on what I still cannot figure out. 

For example :

*  how to work without the journal item menu : I need to check account balances, do corrections , calculate & post cut-off entries... ie : how to calculate unrealized gain&loss on receivable and payables accounts without the currency balance on reports
*  how to work without fiscal year :  well, we have an end date, that's ok in most case but what if the company change date of fy ? manuel filter are not a good answer. 
* how to without any way to permanently locked a fiscal year ? That is a legal issue here. The locking system in place can be change if you have the rights.
* French FEC report is a legal requierement but is not in the standard. 
* There is no way to print an simple account summary, you can only print the full GL but it crashes after only few hundreds of pages. 
* So you have to work on the screen. However, If you work on the screen through the GL you are limited to 80 lines (that you cannot change) and you cannot even filter on an account. Of course you have a link to display more lines but then no more initial balance, balance column or currency information...
* In Switzerland (did not check yet for France) odoo has removed the official P&L and B/S report because parent_id does not exist anymore. So I guess we have to do the job again.
* You can create reports based on tags (on accounts & tax) but a tags is too easily removed or 'quick' created to be reliable. I am concerned about that..Users will say reports are wrong because they will do errors on params without even realizing they did the error....And if you base report on user_type then you have to handle a lot of types which not ideal as well...

At first, these issue were no big deal for me but then I realized after few bug reports that Odoo is not willing to change anything, so we will analyse if modules need to be created/ported very soon.










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2015-10-20 0:08 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Dupont <jmd@6it.fr>:
And lots of french legal obligations are missing ...

What do french experts think about this new accouting strategy ?



2015-10-19 23:40 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Dupont <jmd@6it.fr>:
When installing odoo 9 database with french data, No french accounting plan, USD as default currency, ...

WTF ??

;-)




2015-10-19 22:52 GMT+02:00 J-A Eberhard / Open Net Sàrl <jae@open-net.ch>:
Hello,

In 'Accounting > Configuration > Settings' you can place a 'lock date' (see screenshot)

For the report, it's done through the date or period selection


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De: "Jean-Marc Dupont" <jmd@6it.fr>
À: "Members" <members@odoo-community.org>
Envoyé: Lundi 19 Octobre 2015 22:38:46
Objet: Odoo 9 Accouting : Fiscal Years and Periods


Hello everybody,

As the new version of Odoo doesn't include fiscal years and periods anymore, does anyone know the strategy proposed by Odoo ?

Thanks in advance



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